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This is probably the feature most wished for by MediaShout users at our church. They like that in PowerPoint, you can have multiple text boxes on one page, and precisely format and position each one.
I know that, with Graphics cues, they can have one specifically positioned foreground picture and one specifically positioned background picture, but more than two would be nice. I also realize that different lines of text within one text box can be formatted differently, but they still would like to be able to easily position different blocks of text.
Because of this, they're still using PowerPoint for a lot of things and then importing that into MediaShout.
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Multiple Text Boxes / Graphics on One Cue?
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3Dual text boxes?! Oh my goodness yes!
I have been wanting this feature for a long time. Quite often I have text that needs different formatting for each line, or a translation for a song in Latin. It would be so helpful to have more than one text box. PLEASE CONSIDER THIS.
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this is most definitely under consideration for our next major release.we'll keep you posted.
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Thanks for the idea! This is definitely something we'd love to see, but are currently unable to implement with our current text & graphics limitations. I think that, eventually, we'll need to implement this; but I'm not sure when it'll be happening.Comment
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robert bergen October 17, 2012 22:27so how about the ability to have different size and shape text boxes when you have multiple subcues? The way it is now the text box you set is the same in every subcue. It would be really useful to be able to change if for each. Can that be done??EditDeleteRemove
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We would love to have this capability at ECC, we are still using PPT for our announcement loop. -
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1I would love to be able to put a text box, a video box, and a flash animation box over the same BG graphics.
And, of course, be able to properly layer them (as suggested yesterday by Brent).
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1It'd be nice to have a multi-layer cue, that could be built of any components. You could select what media to apply to a layer. So it'd be more complex than standard cues to set up, so you'd keep the standard BG/FG cue types for basic users.
But then the multi-layer cue would be one (as suggested above) where you just build the layer types. So you could have a good number of layers, and be able to use the function found in many programs to "bring layer forward" or to the front, and "send layer backwards" or to the back. So you could have different components on top of others as you required. -
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This is a great idea! I highly support it. -
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Yes! When I first realized I *couldn't* do this, I figured there must be something I was missing. I wasn't.
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Great idea Chris!
For just the text boxes, I've been creating the layered text in Paint.NET (freeware!) and saving it as a graphic. This gives me the freedom to quickly mess around with layering and transparencies without resorting to the full ppt application.
Because MS can already play flash animations and pptx slides with animation, how difficult would it be to implement a portion of the API from those apps to build this into MS? The APIs are freely published by Microsoft and Adobe respectively, because they want to encourage development of their platform. Of course you would have to bundle the runtime engines as a dll's into MS itself, rather than rely on external rendering engines. If that is feasible, it would remove the MS dependency on having ppt-viewer, the full version of ppt, or flash player installed, while allowing (limited) editing within MS itself.
For flash, I've used .swf files with actionscript 2.0 or 3.0 included to provide timed or triggered FG/BG transitions of elements and proper z-ordering transitions during the animation, but I already have the full flash cs3 installed on this machine. Does anyone know of an open source flash builder that MS could bundle? There would probably be some licensing issues involved, as the open source GPL license usually requires that the 'parent' software application is also open source. But it could be useful to try baking this funtionality into MS??? -
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Graeme, you should send the idea in the middle section of your above post, to featurerequest (AT) mediashout.com
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I'll go ahead and moderate this additional idea to a new post! Love all the ideas floating around here.
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It would be especially awesome if you could have "title" and "body" fields in Text templates, similar to the way scripture and songs have header and footer. This would be great for things like announcements, where you want the title to be a certain way, and the body to be a different way. I had to compromise and set our announcement template for the body, and each time you need to go back and change the font, etc, on the title. -
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3Dual text boxes?! Oh my goodness yes!
I have been wanting this feature for a long time. Quite often I have text that needs different formatting for each line, or a translation for a song in Latin. It would be so helpful to have more than one text box. PLEASE CONSIDER THIS.
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this is most definitely under consideration for our next major release.we'll keep you posted.
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This is one of the few things that puts Song Show Plus over Mediashout! I am a mediashout user who has recently been introduced to Song Show through a friend. This needs to be addressed along with some proper text effects similar to those of ppt. PLEASE BRING THIS TO MS SOON!!!
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We desperately need this update...our church just switched from powerpoint to Media shout and now everyone is asking why we spent all this money on a new program when we still have to use powerpoint to build our announcements and sermon notes. As the IT guy on staff I'm trying to justify have both programs after spending the money. We need to have pics and the on the same cue or multiple texts...please please please...thank you
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We really need this too!!! We are sick of working in PowerPoint and MediaShout! How soon is it coming?
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I have nothing new to add to the discussion, other than I'm really looking forward to seeing what features can come from a new video engine. One that can handle transparent layers in graphics, and multiple elements in a singles cue.
Maybe a tiered product is in order for the next release, a basic video engine (for those who can't afford the advanced or want a simple solution), and an advanced video engine (for those of us who would rather have our machines render live than in pre-production).-
Amen and 'also me' to adamsusong's contribution. Some of us are able to do a lot of the prep work in our video editing software - but certainly not on the fly. Hopefully, a preponderance of requests will do the trick here.
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1If only you could do everything in MediaShout as you can with MS Word combined with Power Point. It would be a dream come true. Three cheers for those who dream.
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Has there been any movement on this front. I have just about quit using Powerpoint for sermon outlines because I want to keep everything inside of MS. Would like to get completely away from it if I could and if this is implemented I could pretty much do that.
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You could export your cues as jpegs and build layers.
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What I have been using is to export the PowerPoint into individual JPEGs and then build text boxes with multiple pages and using the JPEGS as backgrounds. This gets the PowerPoint slides and the MS functionality
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I use this often, especially when I need something quickly during the service,, it works well, then insert the jpeg file into MS and show it.
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My problem is that it would be good to have a completely different format for the foreground section of the code. Instead of a single object, be it text, video, or graphic (and having specialized cues for each), I would prefer a generic "slide" or "cue" that has a foreground that is composed of objects, be them images, videos, vectors (shapes), or text, or all and many. As for backgrounds, they can remain a single object or they can be a composition of objects too.
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I got really good at making Powerpoint do what I wanted to do and then a decision was made to go to MediaShout. The purchaser had only seen the demo but had never used the program. When I showed them some of the limitations they were flabbergasted. Now instead of working in one program I have to use two because I can't add images to a cue unless I build a Powerpoint slide and then import it. My work day just got longer! Also if I want to import songs from Powerpoint (of which I have many-in the order that the singers wish to sing them) I must go through a convoluted process that in the end only saves me typing them over again but I must reformat the tiltles and copyright lines, etc. If I had a wish list Media Shout would allow multiple text boxes on each "slide" as well as images. It would allow exact imports from Powerpoint-perhaps via a template we can set up ourselves. Right now one has to designate each verse/chorus/ending and then we have to put that in order we want it to be sung. That step should not be necessary. The way Powerpoint works best is when a chorus/verse is repeated you duplicate the slide and place it where you want it. The song runs in order it is sung. If the order is the way you want it why build it again is my question. I'm sure there's lots more I have to learn yet about all this program can do (stumble on something new each time I use it) but I hope that if anyone who is responsible for upgrades reads this that they contact those of us who use it each week to find out the things we need and use the most so they can be included in the next upgrade. I really like how the text shows up so well on the screen and that I can import video loops as backgrounds. Used judiciously, they can add to the overall message. Having fun on the learning curve!
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Gotta say, I really prefer the way MS is set up as far as lyrics goes. I, too, got pretty good at managing the weaknesses of PP and managed to put together worship presentations fairly quickly. But really, I felt like PP was kindof like the ugly shag carpet my grandma had in her house -- I had lived with some of the shortcomings for long enough that they had become comfortable and familiar and they didn't bother me that much. After the initial "learning curve" period when I started using MS and thought, "Hey, this is different than PP, I don't like that," I realized that, "Hey this is different than PP, it's better!" :>
So, at this point, we pull the lyrics into MS directly from Song Select. Then the music director only has to send a one-line email: "v1, chorus, v2, chorus, bridge, chorus..." and the MS creator lays it out that way. PP always required a cumbersome, manual process to either type it in from scratch or cut and paste from the previous time we sang it, then reformatting to fit the current series. -
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Anna you should be able to import any Powerpoint slideshow by simply going to insert>slideshow>and go to the document folder and click on the powerpoint file and it should import it straight into Media Shout. You can also import as Jpegs if you like. You can also go to the song deck click on add new song and choose add from PPT file.
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So..anything new on this? Coming to V4? Mac?- view 6 more comments
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Yeah, but these are things that are pretty common to what we do during live worship. Somebody tells us they'll be doing an announcement on the upcoming Zambia mission trip and we'd like to siply put up an image of a smiling Zambian kid *and* one line of text about the trip. Or the preacher wants to show a map of the Holy Land *and* a line of text uring the sermon. Or as the original example shows, the preacher wants the original language on one side of the screen and the English translation on the other side. These are pretty straightforward things that come up quite often. And they shouldn't require a "work-around" solution to create the whole thing in PP or photoshop and then import into MS.
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I'm confused. Presentation software almost always includes support for multiple items on a single slide. And if it's a dangerously expensive operation to do live, then it can easily be pre-rendered by the software itself for the show.
Overlay text, chroma keying, and live mixing of multiple streams of video, yes. Multiple text boxes on a semi-static cue? That's child's play.
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This is being considered for the Windows version for V5. I'm not sure if it will be a part of the Mac version though. When I know more, I will post it.
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YES!!! Multiple text boxes would be awesome!
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1Bumping this, to make sure this hasn't been implemented yet, (I came here looking to see if this was possible). Then agreeing it should be added to the next release if it's not yet!-
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Thanks for the bump. We're still considering this for future versions.
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james horsley 4 days ago
Have asked for auto save for years. Maybe we need to revisit it again Comment good point! good point! (undo) Write a comment... Cancel
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Cancel 0 Edit Delete Remove Official Fork Clay Wynn 4 days ago
Glad I am not the lone ranger. If you add it up I have lost $thousands of work over the years because of this. It would be very, very nice to only lose the last 5 min. of work in a crash or power fluctuation. Comment good point! good point! (undo) Write a comment... Cancel
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Cancel 0 Edit Delete Remove Official Fork Elwin Kershaw 4 days ago
I definitely agree. With media shouts propensity to be a little buggy an auto save feature would have saved me a lot of redo's over the last three years. Comment good point! good point! (undo) Write a comment... Cancel
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Cancel I’m happy 0 Edit Delete Remove Official Fork Clay Wynn 3 days ago
It is settled then. Let Release 4.5 284 have auto-save from the .ssc file editor, triggered as a selectable option on set up as a start up default, and also selectable from a command within the .ssc file editor, with save time range selectable by the operator from 0 min. to 30 min. with 2 min increments. The timer would start upon any sensed keyboard or mouse entered change to the image of the .ssc currently in memory. Comment good point! good point! (undo) Write a comment... Cancel
Edit Your Reply (some HTML allowed) What's the status of this idea? Choose... Not planned Under consideration Planned Implemented It is settled then. Let Release 264 have auto-save from the .ssc file editor, triggered as a selectable option on set up as a start up default, and also selectable from a command within the .ssc file editor, with save time range selectable by the operator from 0 min. to 30 min. with 2 min increments. The timer would start upon any sensed keyboard or mouse entered change to the image of the .ssc currently in memory. How does this make you feel? Add Image I'm e.g. happy, confident, thankful, excited sad, anxious, confused, frustrated kidding, amused, unsure, silly indifferent, undecided, unconcerned
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